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iPad 8 Screen Digitizer Replacement

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the left edge of the device for two minutes.

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    • While you're waiting for the adhesive to loosen, note the following areas that are sensitive to prying:

    • Front camera

    • Antennas

    • Display cables

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    Clampy - Anti-Clamp
    $24.95
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    • The next three steps demonstrate the Anti-Clamp, a tool we designed to make the opening procedure easier. If you aren't using the Anti-Clamp, skip down three steps for an alternate method.

    • For complete instructions on how to use the Anti-Clamp, check out this guide.

    • Pull the blue handle backwards to unlock the Anti-Clamp's arms.

    • Place an object under your iPad so it rests level between the suction cups.

    • Position the suction cups near the middle of the left edge—one on the top, and one on the bottom.

    • Hold the bottom of the Anti-Clamp steady and firmly press down on the top cup to apply suction.

    • If you find that the surface of your iPad is too slippery for the Anti-Clamp to hold onto, use tape to create a grippier surface.

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    • Pull the blue handle forward to lock the arms.

    • Turn the handle clockwise 360 degrees or until the cups start to stretch.

    • Make sure the suction cups remain aligned with each other. If they begin to slip out of alignment, loosen the suction cups slightly and realign the arms.

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    • Wait one minute to give the adhesive a chance to release and present an opening gap.

    • If your screen isn't getting hot enough, you can use a hair dryer to heat along the left edge of the iPad.

    • For complete instructions on how to use a hair dryer, check out this guide.

    • Insert an opening pick under the digitizer when the Anti-Clamp creates a large enough gap.

    • If the Anti-Clamp doesn't create a sufficient gap, apply more heat to the area and rotate the handle clockwise half a turn.

    • Don't crank more than a half a turn at a time, and wait one minute between turns. Let the Anti-Clamp and time do the work for you.

    • Skip the next step.

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    • If your display is badly cracked, covering it with a layer of clear packing tape may allow the suction cup to adhere. Alternatively, very strong tape may be used instead of the suction cup. If all else fails, you can superglue the suction cup to the broken screen.

    • Once the screen is warm to touch, apply a suction handle to the left edge of the screen and as close to the edge as possible.

    • Lift the screen with the suction handle to create a small gap between the digitizer and the frame.

    • Insert an opening pick into the gap between the digitizer and the frame.

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    • Insert a second opening pick into the gap you just created.

    • Slide the pick toward the bottom-left corner of the device to separate the adhesive.

    • Leave the pick in the bottom-left corner to prevent the adhesive from re-sealing.

    • Don't worry if you can see the opening pick through the digitizer—just pull the pick out. The LCD screen shouldn't be damaged, but you risk leaving behind hard-to-clean adhesive.

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    • If the opening pick gets stuck in the adhesive, "roll" the pick along the side of the iPad to continue separating the adhesive.

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    • Slide the first opening pick towards the top-left corner of the device to separate the adhesive.

    • Leave the pick in the top-left corner to prevent the adhesive from re-sealing.

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the top edge of the device for two minutes.

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    • Rotate the pick around the top-left corner of the device to separate the adhesive.

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    • Slide the opening pick along the top edge of the device, stopping just before you reach the front camera.

    • Avoid sliding the pick over the front camera, as you may damage the lens. The following steps will show how to prevent this.

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    • Pull the pick out until only the tip is between the digitizer and the frame.

    • Slide the pick above the front camera to separate the adhesive.

    • Leave the pick near the right side of the front camera before continuing.

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    • Re-insert the pick and slide it towards the top-right corner of the device to completely separate the top adhesive.

    • Leave the pick in the top-right corner to prevent the adhesive from re-sealing.

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the right edge of the device for two minutes.

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    • Rotate the pick around the top-right corner of the device to separate the adhesive.

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    • Insert a new opening pick and slide it to the middle of the iPad's right edge.

    • The display cables are located approximately halfway from the bottom of the iPad. Stop sliding once you reach three inches from the bottom of the iPad.

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the bottom edge of the device for two minutes.

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    • Slide the bottom-left pick to the bottom-left corner to separate the adhesive.

    • Don't fully rotate the pick around the corner, as you may damage the antenna.

    • Leave the pick in the bottom-left corner before moving to the next step.

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    • Insert a new opening pick into the gap you just created on the bottom edge of the iPad.

    • Slide the pick over the antenna, stopping just before the home button.

    • Only slide the pick towards the home button and not away from it, as you may damage the antenna.

    • If you need to slide the pick over this section again, remove and re-insert it at the bottom-left corner.

    • Leave the pick to the left of the home button before continuing.

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    • Insert an opening pick into the gap you just created.

    • Slide the pick underneath the home button and towards the bottom-right corner, making sure only the tip is between the digitizer and the frame.

    • Only insert the pick up to 1 mm to avoid damaging the right antenna.

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    • Re-insert the pick and slide it towards the home button to completely separate the bottom adhesive.

    • Only slide the pick towards the home button and not away from it, as you may damage the antenna.

    • If you need to slide the pick over this section again, remove and re-insert it at the bottom-right corner.

    • Leave the pick to the right of the home button before continuing.

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the right edge of the device for two minutes.

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    • Be very careful with this step. Take your time, ensure the adhesive is hot and soft, and make sure you separated all of the adhesive with a pick. Don't be afraid to stop and reheat.

    • Twist the two opening picks on the left corners of the iPad to lift the digitizer slightly, separating the the last of the adhesive in the process.

    • If there's a significant amount of resistance, reheat the edges and work along them with an opening pick.

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    • Lift the left edge of the digitizer upwards to further separate the adhesive along the right edge of the iPad.

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    • While supporting the digitizer, slide an opening pick between the two display cables to separate the last of the adhesive.

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    • Once all of the adhesive has been separated, open the digitizer like a book and rest it parallel to the iPad.

    • During reassembly, clean the remaining adhesive from the frame—and the digitizer if you're re-using it—with isopropyl alcohol. Replace the adhesive with our adhesive strips or pre-cut adhesive cards.

    • Be mindful of the display cables when reassembling the device. Make sure they are folded properly underneath the LCD screen to prevent any damage.

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    Magnetic Project Mat
    $19.95
    Comprar
    • Use a Phillips screwdriver to remove the four 4.3 mm-long screws securing the LCD to the frame.

    • Remove any tape obscuring the LCD screws.

    • Throughout this repair, keep track of each screw and make sure it goes back exactly where it came from to avoid damaging your device.

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    • Don't attempt to fully remove the LCD during this step, as it's still connected by a flex cable.

    • Use the flat end of a spudger to pry the LCD out of its recess just enough to grab it with your fingers.

    • Flip the LCD like a page in a book, lifting near the camera and turning it over the home button end of the frame.

    • Lay the LCD on a clean, soft, lint-free surface to allow access to the display cables.

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    • Use a Phillips screwdriver to remove the 2.3 mm-long screw securing the battery connector to the logic board.

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    • These photos show what the battery connector looks like underneath the logic board. Use these photos as a reference while you safely disconnect the battery.

    • Notice that the battery connector has cantilever springs on the logic board that press against the battery contact pads. Since both the logic board and battery are glued down, you'll need to slide something thin and flexible between the contact points to disconnect the battery.

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    • Be careful when you isolate the battery using a battery blocker. The battery contacts are easily bent or broken, resulting in irreversible damage.

    • Ensure that the iFixit logo on the battery blocker is facing up.

    • Slide the battery blocker underneath the logic board's battery connector at a 35 degree angle.

    • Don't push the battery blocker underneath the connector with excessive force. If you're having trouble fitting the battery blocker underneath the logic board, you can try using a playing card to disconnect the battery instead.

    • The battery blocker or playing card ideally should slide under the logic board without encountering any blockages. After insertion, it should rest at about a 15 degree angle.

    • Leave the battery blocker in place as you work.

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    • Use a Phillips screwdriver to remove the three 1.4 mm-long screws securing the display cable bracket.

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    Tweezers
    $4.99
    Comprar
    • Use tweezers, or your fingers, to remove the display cable bracket.

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    • Use the flat end of a spudger to pry up and disconnect the LCD cable press connector.

    • To re-attach press connectors like this one, carefully align and press down on one side until it clicks into place, then repeat on the other side.

    • Don't press down on the middle. If the connector is misaligned, the pins can bend, causing permanent damage.

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    • Remove the LCD completely and rest it face down on a clean, soft, lint-free surface.

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    Tweezers
    $4.99
    Comprar
    • Use a pair of tweezers to peel off the tape covering the home button cable ZIF connector.

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    • Use a spudger, an opening tool, or your fingernail to flip up the small, hinged locking flap on the home button cable ZIF connector.

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    • Use a pair of tweezers to pull the home button ribbon cable straight out of the ZIF connector.

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    • Use the flat end of a spudger to pry up and disconnect the two digitizer cable press connectors.

    • To avoid damaging your iPad, pry only on the connectors themselves, not on the socket on the logic board.

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    • Use the flat end of a spudger to pry up the vibration isolator near the bottom-right corner of the device.

    • Take care not to puncture or tear the home button ribbon cable.

    • Remove the vibration isolator.

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    • The home button cable is secured with some light adhesive.

    • Use a pair of tweezers to peel the home button cable away from the frame.

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    Polyimide Tape
    $9.99
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    • Remove the front panel assembly.

    • Use an opening pick to cut away any residual adhesive that may still be connecting the front panel assembly to the frame.

    • If you experience "ghost" or "phantom" touch input issues with your new display, this can be resolved by adding a layer of very thin insulating tape, such as Kapton (polyimide) tape, to the highlighted areas on the back of the panel. iFixit replacement digitizers come with the proper insulation and should not require the addition of any tape.

    • Without the proper insulation, these areas of the digitizer can ground out against other components, causing touch input malfunction.

    • The insulation is not visible to the naked eye, and is different from the foam dust barrier strips found on many iPads.

    • During reassembly, before installing a display, remove any remaining adhesive from the iPad, and clean the glued areas with high concentration isopropyl alcohol (90% or greater) and a lint-free cloth. This helps prep the iPad for fresh adhesive and ensures that it will bond properly.

    • Test your iPad's functions and install pre-cut adhesive strips to the back of the display using our display adhesive application guide before sealing it up.

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    • The home button cable is secured with some light adhesive.

    • Use your fingers to peel the home button cable off of the back of the front panel.

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    • Slide an opening pick underneath the home button cable to separate it from the front panel.

    • If the adhesive is stubborn, don't force the pick. Lightly heat the home button cable using an iOpener or a hair dryer to soften the adhesive.

    • Continue sliding the opening pick until you reach the home button bracket.

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    • Slide an opening pick under the top of the home button cable to loosen the metal contact off of the home button bracket.

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    • Heat an iOpener and apply it to the home button bracket for thirty seconds.

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    • Use an opening tool to pry the home button bracket off of the front panel.

    • Bending or warping the home button bracket can cause your home button to lose its "clickey-ness" upon reassembly.

    • If the home button bracket begins to bend before popping off, apply a few drops of high-concentration (90% or higher) isopropyl alcohol to the bracket mounts.

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    Ferramenta utilizada nesse passo:
    E6000 Adhesive Glue
    $2.99
    Comprar
    • Remove the home button bracket.

    • When reinstalling this bracket, use high bond glue such as E6000 to secure it to the front panel assembly.

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    • Use your finger to push the home button through the front of the front panel to separate the adhesive holding it in place.

    • Apply pressure slowly. The adhesive is attached to a delicate gasket that will tear easily.

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    • Remove the home button assembly.

    • During reassembly, transfer over the home button gasket to the new front panel or home button assembly.

    • If the new panel doesn't have a spacer ring, you'll also need to transfer your existing spacer over.

    • If possible, turn on your iPad and test your repair before installing new adhesive and resealing it.

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    • You're now left with the screen digitizer.

Conclusão

To reassemble your device, follow these instructions in reverse order.

Take your e-waste to an R2 or e-Stewards certified recycler.

Repair didn’t go as planned? Try some basic troubleshooting, or ask our iPad 7 Answers community for help.

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2 comentários

Followed the instructions but the new digitizer isn't responding to my inputs and the iPad is randomly entering numbers to unlock the screen. I'm up to 1 hour to wait until the next attempt.

NOAH HULBERT - Responder

that's what happened with mine as well, i just had to disconnect the cables and reattach them as they were tricky for me

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